http://www.idkfa.com/v3 idkfa: syndicated http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1730 Good call on "In the Heat of the Night." "The Social Network," didn't ring my drama bell. The script was well written, and the characters relatable enough, but it's presentation as a... bi-o-pic... sort of set it apart from what I would normally classify as drama. The premise that "these are real people" kept me from suspending my disbelief in the more "dramatic" scenes. I'll stress, though: not a bad movie. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Asked and Answered Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:40:07 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1730 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1728 I can't believe it took 19 posts for someone to say The Social Network- props Ashley. And yes, I drug my finger down the screen counting responses. Pure dramas are hard to find- you know, movies without some sort of fantasy twist, or ones that are too close to a comedy to count. Yes John, I'm talking about The Life Aquatic. I'll do my best. Se7en - Because I love the squirmy stuff. This really is more of a thriller; I won't count it. 1. To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee = good drama. Gregory Peck = bad ass. 2. In the Heat of the Night - Black man slapping a white man. I guess I'm a sucker for the classics. 3. Forest Gump - Also a sucker for Tom Hanks. 4. Almost Famous - Don't tell me the Tiny-Dancer-on-the-bus scene doesn't make you feel warm and fuzzy every time you watch it. 5. The Social Network - Both entertaining and dramatic- I think it IS possible to have both. But it appeals to my generation, so I am biased. 6. Mulholland Dr. - Just kidding. F that movie. F it in the A. missmalgal@idkfa.com (missmalgal) Asked and Answered Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:51:36 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1728 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1675 Fair enough, though to a certain degree it kinda gets me in the mood to watch movies from a particular 20th century era filmed in the likeness of movies from the era, not that I can think of other movies that do stuff like that, but anyway a nice touch. The end I will agree on the bits with the survivors was a bit much, though some holocaust survivors probably have a different view of it. If nothing else it was a nice change for Spielburg and he did a pretty decent job of it considering the last film he had directed before Schindler was Jurassic Park. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Asked and Answered Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:04:51 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1675 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1670 That is sooooo awesome. I keep meaning to watch the entire series again, in order (as I did for DS9). Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Asked and Answered Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:16:02 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1670 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1666 I mean, black and white, really? It was like every choice was made to deliberately pull heartstrings, regardless of how it helped tell the story. I don't think it was a bad film necessarily, but all the stuff at the end in present day was just superfluous, unnecessary, and gave people another 10 minutes to ball their eyes out in a dark theatre. Wilber@idkfa.com (Wilber) Asked and Answered Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:03:07 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1666 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1665 For Christmas my mother gave me a box set of the entire TNG series. I have never been so ashamed/overjoyed. Wilber@idkfa.com (Wilber) Asked and Answered Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:01:28 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1665 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1586 Never liked Crash. Unless you're talking about the 1996 movie. In which case, respect! Lol. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Asked and Answered Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:38:39 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1586 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1579 off the top of my head, my favorite drama movies are pelican brief a few good men shawshank forrest gump se7en aviator the departed syriana the manchurian candidate (the remake, not the original) there's definitely more, but this is what i could come up with in the 5 minutes i pondered the question kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Asked and Answered Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:29:47 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1579 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1571 Garden State and Crash are two of my all time favorite movies I have ever seen, no matter the category. I have been wanting to see Social Network but haven't yet. Everyone I know who has seen it says it is excellent, though. CapitolZebra@idkfa.com (CapitolZebra) Asked and Answered Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:59:19 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1571 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1559 I like drama movies. More than pure comedies most any day. But a mix of comeday and drama can also be fun. For dramas, I like things like: The Wrestler The Godfather Letters from Iwo Jima Unforgiven Million Dollar Baby Mystic River... alright, most any movie Clint Eastwood has directed lately I also like dramatic documentaries, like: Anvil: The Story of Anvil I also like challenging dramas, like: Dogville (never want to see it again) Really, if you can relate to characters, or the plot can make you think... then the movie has succeeded. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:21:20 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1559 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1555 To be fair, you're a badass. Star Trek FTW! Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:40:13 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1555 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1554 Fair. Not that I would count it in my own list of top drama's but for some reason Blade Runner comes to mind. I would say mostly a good drama in itself but with a scifi as well. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:51:03 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1554 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1553 Preaching to the choir, I was just stating that it touches on science fiction elements, which is probably why it was not included in the "Drama Only" list I haphazardly picked from IMDB. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:41:00 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1553 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1552 Schindler's List over the top? Kind of an bold statement, though presumably you've now seen it to say that. Why exactly? MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:39:17 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1552 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1550 I don't really see why scifi has to be excluded or a mitigating factor when considering drama. I will probably get the words wrong in describing this, but it seems drama has more to do with how the story unfolds while science fiction is just a backdrop or perhaps a theme. A context in which the story unfolds. They should not be mutually exclusive. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:35:43 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1550 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1546 Josh and I had this conversation the other day. Basically any good movie must have some elements of drama in them to carry a plot/suspense. Otherwise you're left with nothing.. It doesn't have to have language i.e. The Bear, but it needs drama. Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:14:02 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1546 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1544 lol Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:09:55 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1544 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1542 Love you! To be fair, I wasn't totally joking. I mean, drama is a pretty ill formed category. Also, I haven't seen Black Swan, but if it is like Aronofsky's other films it would be, like you said, a really, really great film that I never want to have to watch again. And on that tip, Requiem for a Dream is one of my favorite dramas, but I never ever want to see it again. A conversation I just had with my sister: Me: "What are some of your favorite dramas?" Her: "Uh... Well, Schindler's List." Me: "That's what I keep thinking too!" Her: "Meh, I never saw it." For the record, I thought Schindler's List was over the top. What about Fight Club? Momento? Do those count? Eternal Sunshine comes to mind. I watch American Beauty about once a year, and I almost never rewatch films. Can we consider the Step Up franchise drama? I mean, besides the dancing. Because I found Step Up 2: The Streets pretty compelling. Wilber@idkfa.com (Wilber) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:09:31 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1542 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1540 I forgot Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. But I guess that sort of gets to the scifi side of things. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:05:56 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1540 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1538 I hope no one responds to your new posts ever again... Johnny@idkfa.com (Johnny) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:57:35 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1538 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1537 Is Garden State a drama? Is Truman Show? Is Big Fish? I'm skeptical about the definition. Dark Knight is more of a drama than any of those, I'd say, regardless of action sequences (although I understand why you left it out, given your caveat). Just because a movie isn't straight comedy doesn't make it drama. Some of my favorite dramas: First Contact Generations The Wrath of Khan Insurrection The One With the Whales Nemesis Wilber@idkfa.com (Wilber) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:37:25 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1537 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1534 Dramas I have enjoyed: Shawshank Redemption Garden State Crash Into the Wild The Social Network Big Fish Truman Show I tried to stick to ones that didn't have action sequences to drive the audience's attention. I'm kind of with Lee on this category, these are the ones I felt emotionally invested in when watching them the first time in the theater. In trying to find similarities, I would probably say great acting performances drove a lot of these to be great movies rather than simply story or film direction. I will forever think Jim Carrey got screwed for not picking up an Oscar nod for Truman Show. I thought it was an ingenious combination of comedy and drama. Johnny@idkfa.com (Johnny) Asked and Answered Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:27:19 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1534 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1501 Argh, I had a list but it disappeared.. Gravestones!!! Gravestones!!!! Here's a quick blurb on what was it in: Dancer in the Dark. Makes me cry every time. Stars Bjork Dogville. Same director as above. Broken Flowers. Bill Murray, reminds me of Lost in Translation Sonny. James Franco. Also has Harry Dean Stanton which I'm a sucker for. Virgin Suicides. By Sofia Coppola, she's awesome Apocalypse Now. Mind-effer. The Original Bad Lieutenant Harvey Keitel.. The Basketball Diaries. It's been many years since I've seen this.. Bringing Out The Dead with Nick Cage Most of these are about loss, with drugs thrown into the mix for good measure :P All tend to break the titular character down into a mess of grovelling guts.. Dramas are way up there on my list of movies I like to watch.. while they aren't nearly as easy to watch as a B movie, I enjoy the life lessons of them. I tend to get too invested in them though so can't watch them that often. Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Asked and Answered Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:23:35 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1501 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1499 The drama genre, and more specifically, tragedy, seems intent to shove our humanity right into plain sight. Sort of like science fiction, but with less quantifiable awesome. If I remember much from high school English, tragedy aims at catharsis, both of the characters, but also of the audience. They were supposed to bring you down so far that when you walked away, the simplistic drudgery of your normal daily life was supposed to seem like the best thing ever. Now we live in an arguably post-scarcity culture, where instant gratification is the norm. Fist-pounding brosefs want to see Transformer testicles and egregious light saber battles. Reflection and introspection is synonymous with feeling bad, and isn't considered entertainment. At least that's why I think dramas don't sell well. Perusing the drama lists over at IMDB, in no good order, here's the ones I'm a fan of (even if they're only marginally dramatic): 7. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 18. Se7en (1995) 1. The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 14. Fight Club (1999) 25. Forrest Gump (1994) 28. American Beauty (1999) (First numbers are the IMDB Top 250 ratings, second are the years). Depressingly, I took off "The Seven Samurai." Both age and culture boundaries were too much, I suppose. The ending ("The farmers have won. We have lost. ") is supposed to be what gets you in the end, but in failing to relate to the characters, I didn't feel for their tragedy despite having successfully defended their village. The others above, though, are pretty flawless. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Asked and Answered Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:43:37 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1499 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1498 Let me start by saying I thought Black Swan was a really good movie. However, it is not a movie you will want to see twice just because the degradation of the main character is rather uncomfortable. But in terms of 2010 movies, this definitely ranks up at the top for me. There have been a couple of times this year that I have seen dramas with friends where I thought it was a pretty good movie, but other responses include, "I just wasn't into it." Respectable opinion, and one that leads to Transformers always lapping the profits of these movies by an order of magnitude. Plus I acknowledge I'm more into movies than most. But it does beg the question, what movies in the DRAMA category do you enjoy the most? Why? Johnny@idkfa.com (Johnny) Asked and Answered Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:05:07 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=1498&msg_id=1498