http://www.idkfa.com/v3 idkfa: syndicated http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2305 Nice, congrats. Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Indiscernible from Magic Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:22:14 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2305 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2304 64gb wifi. and now, my iphone is a hotspot, since at&t now sanctions it. sweeet! kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Indiscernible from Magic Fri, 18 Mar 2011 00:54:11 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2304 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2303 Which one did you get? Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:05:26 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2303 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2299 thanks buddy! kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:11:13 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2299 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2298 I have it *Sent from my iPad2 FIFY Green Man@idkfa.com (Green Man) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2298 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2297 I have it! kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:33:24 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2297 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2212 Tell them I'd buy their Ipad's for $250. :) Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:05:12 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2212 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2211 Yep . kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:45:55 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2211 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2210 Basically the ipad is just not a product that appeals to you. And there is nothing wrong with that lord joshus. Can't say I'd get one either. This probably is just another way in which you diverge from most consumers, but you want a device that will last you 3+ years. I think a lot of apple users are perfectly happy to ditch whatever they just bought for the newest version that comes out every year. There are 8 people here at work already trying to sell off their ipad 1's to prepare for the ipad 2's. They did the same thing with their iphone 3's for the 3s and 4... Its like a semi annual dance of renewing the apple item. Part of me hates these people for having an apparent boat load of cash to toss around at all this random shit ALL THE TIME. But then all I need to do is look at my REI dividend or look at my garage full of climbing/camping/skiing/snowboarding gear. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:41:16 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2210 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2209 I agree that average users don't need the kinds of flexibility, programmability, or customizability I usually demand from my computing devices. I accept that I am indeed a vanishing percentage of the computer-savvy population. I disagree that average users do 2 things. In most cases, yes: people are using email clients and web browsers frequently. However, the distinction in peoples minds isn't on which process or viewing software they're using, it's which interface they're interacting with and the information displayed by that interface. Ask someone which websites they visit, and they'll probably name at least 10 (social networking, calendars, news sites, fan sites, forums, etc.). Ask them what is the difference between the Facebook app and the Facebook web site, and they'll give you a blank look. The average user 15 years ago may have been limited in the things they use a computer for. This is because technology and bandwidth were very limited, and people's perception of computation devices were as utilitarian and capriciously unreliable tools. We now have amazing, powerful, stable, well-programmed devices that fit in our pockets. And people use them for a ever-widening range of tasks, most of all the average users. What I see when I look at the iPad is arbitrary limitation. I understand that the device's design is intended to fit the niche of ubiquitous, no-fuss computing where everything is clean, and simple, and doesn't break. There will always, however, be things that it won't be able to do, not because of physical or technical limitation, but because somebody decided that it shouldn't. If I'm going to own a computer for 3+ years, it has to be able to do everything I want it to do right now, and accommodate the innovation and software improvements people come up with in the near future . Anything less I feel like I'm buying a deficient device. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:29:02 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2209 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2208 I should say first of all I have not had a functional laptop in almost 2 years. And pretty much didn't use the one I had for at least 2 years before that. While I was still using it, the only time I ever used the optical drive was to watch dvd's. So essentially I never used the damn drive anyway and unless you have to do reinstall the operating system I have a hard time in seeing the utility of one these days. But you may use yours more often than I did for whatever you do. Basically I see no difference between the two. It seems odd that an ipad is acceptable but an air is not, I would suppose that is a matter of perception or what you Want a laptop to be able to do vs what you Want a media device to do. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:17:13 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2208 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2207 see, while I am very tempted by iPad 2, I wouldn't use an Air. If I'm buying a laptop, it will have an optical drive. For Airs to not have one is unacceptable. kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:02:00 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2207 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2206 I think you have spent far too much time wanting all purpose machines that you can bend to your will and use to create useful and or interesting things with. The average consumer, and for this I might use myself, probably only does 2 things with an average computer. Check/write emails and watch or browse random shit. Neither of these require a lot of processing power, but battery life and portability are probably key. The amount of time i spend at home actually working with any kind of document creation is pretty much zero and really the amount of time I spend accessing documents is about the same. I really would not be surprised if this were true for most people. So really the ipad is pretty ingenious in design and marketing, it really hits exactly what most people want to do and it does it easily without really requiring much in the way of computer competency. Though having messed around with one last night, a regular ipad mind you, while I was waiting for katy last night to get her book signed by The Oatmeal. I have to say that if I had money, which I don't, the mac Air is pretty damn sweet and bridges the gap between the ipad and a real computer so sexily. The start-up time and size and weight are impressive, battery life I don't know too much about but my father in law who owns one has been pretty happy. The price though is of course much more than the ipad. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Indiscernible from Magic Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:17:03 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2206 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2205 Hear Hear! I totally agree with Josh's statement here. And on that note, the Nook Color running the Android OS is a tablet disguised as a E-Reader. B&N has a coupon on Ebay right now for $50 off. Of course it'll have to be rooted, but once rooted, you can then add the App store and go to down on the craziness, and is half the price of an Ipad. While it's smaller, to me it's the better buy. Plus it has a SD card slot, wireless, and I believe standard mini-usb. But not everybody would want to go that way. I'd be watching Craigslist, I think people are going to start dumping their old ones for the new hotness soon. Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:09:33 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2205 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2204 I release you from my service. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 02 Mar 2011 19:27:05 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2204 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2203 These days, I'm usually out of the house from 6:30am to 10:30pm at least four days per week, and usually six days per week. What with all that mobility, I can definitely see myself using an "in-between" device, especially since it supports e-books and movies on a screen of decent size. (yes, you can watch movies and read e-books on an iphone, but I won't use a screen that size for those purposes. I already have to pay attention to my usage with mine so that I don't strain my eyes even with things as simple as twitter or email.) My laptop's drawbacks in comparison to an ipad would be startup times and battery life. Even with the most conservative battery settings, I can only watch one movie, and only just, before i run out of juice. that being said, i have no experience with an ipad, so i don't know its battery life when watching movies. theres things i would still use a laptop for rather than an in-between device, and that's my homework/word processing, and all of my personal finance stuff. kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:07:45 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2203 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2201 As in, you want to get one? Or that you want to start a discussion about it? I'll bite, either way. The iPad isn't a full-blown computer (which, may be what some people are looking for). It's instead a part of the product line that Apple is considering "mobile," that is, to be used on-the-go, with the assumption that you have another computer somewhere else that'll sync with the iPad. Unless I've missed something, it's the same with iPad 2 as it is in the first iPad: you have to have a computer first in order to use it. For most this isn't a problem, but I mention it mostly because it's telling of how Apple considers this product line. If I'm going to spend $500+ on a "computer," it's going to have to get the basics right: It has to be able to stand by itself. It has to have a real filesystem that I can reliably use to manage the rest of my files that reside in real filesystems. Simply having a list of pictures and documents doesn't impress me. I'm always interested in how computers connect to things. As in: if I can't connect to something in my house, that thing has essentially become useless. Can't use it to browse my movie collection? Oh dear. It's also USB, Wireless, or nothing else. The fact that I can't do file transfers over 100Mb Ethernet means I don't have efficient access to any of my files. Extreme lack of configurability / extendability. Simply adding an app doesn't satisfy. No basic ability to program, script, or otherwise automate tasks. I do this all the time: if I don't have access to a command line, or something equivalent, again, not very useful. I like the battery life. I like that they're improving performance. I could care less about the fancy cover. I still have some problems with the design of the device. For instance, given their "9x" graphics, why wouldn't they give you an kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:55:53 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2201 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2200 Okay, fine, I'll do it! http://www.apple.com/ipad/ kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Indiscernible from Magic Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:04:17 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2200&msg_id=2200