http://www.idkfa.com/v3 idkfa: syndicated http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2948 "Sooooooooooo educational!" Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) The Sporting Life Thu, 26 May 2011 14:45:50 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2948 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2947 [...] kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) The Sporting Life Thu, 26 May 2011 14:32:32 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2947 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2946 I think this conversation has simply turned into an excuse for us to make Josh join the big-spenders club, so that we can all feel better about our ridiculous spending in this regard. BECAUSE WHAT IF JOSH COULD OUTPERFORM US IN FLANNEL? AND WE'RE WEARING $150 JACKETS? I suppose I'd have to return the $150 jacket for something more expensive until I could beat Josh. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) The Sporting Life Thu, 26 May 2011 14:29:27 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2946 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2945 You do realize that we are no longer of the age or income bracket where the statement "THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS" is no longer a valid argument, yes? kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) The Sporting Life Thu, 26 May 2011 14:06:49 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2945 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2944 I have no idea. I saw the price tag, and jerked away like I'd touched a hot surface. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) The Sporting Life Thu, 26 May 2011 13:43:38 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2944 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2943 If you want carbon nanotubes that boosts the price by at least a factor of 10, jeeze josh. The right gear can mean not turning around on a simple hike because you'll be miserable, it can get you higher, sometimes get you farther, keep you out longer. Because your worries of getting too cold, too wet, or moving too slow because you bought heavy ass cheap stuff are gone. If its important to you to use the days you have for adventure and not have weather play a big factor, or it making it to your goal on your hike/climb/whatever then that jacket is probably worth every penny. Its all about what you want to do with it and how you want to use it. Also, are you referring to the north face's Verto windbreaker, because that is some seriously sweet sexy ass shit. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) The Sporting Life Thu, 26 May 2011 13:04:07 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2943 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2941 I justify my ridiculous REI splurges in much less convincing fashion. Now I have backup ;) Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 18:40:54 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2941 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2940 This is what I had suggested to you. I bought something different last year or the year before (less windbreaker and more keep me warm), but this thing looks pretty versatile. And only $50. Beats cotton, I would bet. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 18:39:20 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2940 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2939 Yeah, if you don't expect to utilize it's "highest use," it may not be worth it. By highest use I mean experiencing the conditions the garment/equipment was designed for. That $150 wind breaker was most likely created out of a fabric that is lightweight, can be compacted and crumpled into nearly nothing, block the wind and keep you dry. When I was hiking up to the Harding Icefield last May, I really appreciated all those capabilities of my REI shell. Had I instead dug around in my small pack to produce a walmart -veritable- garbage bag with poor seams and hefty mass, it may have gotten the job done for the time, with some added discomforts. Instead, I invested in quality, and expect it to last long and treat me well. But I've already used it on several overnight excursions where it's proved itself. The same applies to the hiking pants, rain pants, gaiters and packs I've bought. You can get by and still have fun with cheap (or completely lack of) gear, but I imagine small investments here and there will ultimately produce a more comfortable experience. Cotton socks on a long hike? Enjoy athletes foot. Rain storm 5 miles from the car while wearing jeans? You're going to be cold. Hurt yourself to the point of immobilization while wearing such? You're risking more than discomfort. It is a cost-benefit analysis. I feel like I do enough of it to warrant the purchases. Green Man@idkfa.com (Green Man) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 18:16:00 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2939 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2937 It's super hard for me to justify buying a windbreaker that is $150 on sale. Maybe I don't understand the premium one pays for performance-wear, but the price is just too steep for me. The coat better be made of out carbon nanotubes for that price. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 17:36:47 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2937 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2936 I just took him to REI. He refused to buy anything. I bought a new pair of hiking boots. I blame him. Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 17:27:09 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2936 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2934 Well, the only possible conclusion then is that it was the flannel. You know there's an REI sale going on right now. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 13:38:02 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2934 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2933 I didn't think I was. No worse than the other bikers in the path. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 13:26:16 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2933 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2932 Were you taking up the whole sidewalk/bike lane? Because that always irritates me, when folks are just meandering side to side, or in the middle of the available lane. I typically want to yell, "RULES OF THE ROAD", but always end up saying, "Excuse me..." Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 13:22:28 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2932 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2930 Biking to work, some guy just asked "Really?" as he passed me. I apologized, and let him pass. Whatever he was referring to is going to bug me for the rest of the day. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) The Sporting Life Wed, 25 May 2011 12:26:34 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=2930&msg_id=2930