http://www.idkfa.com/v3 idkfa: syndicated http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6020 I totally get your argument that trucks use way more fuel than cars. Preaching to the choir on that one. I've even done the math and weighed the benefits. I'd even have no problem paying a tax for my truck. I use the "truck" parts of it all the time. For me, it's essential. I can't go fishing in the summers without the 4WD capability, and without the power of my truck, I can't tow my dad's boat back and forth to where we go fishing. Year-round, I am doing various home-improvement projects where I am transporting wood or tools that bulk out even E's jeep. Couldn't transport that stuff without my truck. In short, I find use for my truck, but I am a realist regarding the "penalties" I pay due to its higher cost of operation. kitacek@idkfa.com (kitacek) Mercy General Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:44:45 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6020 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6013 Nothing good comes from Reddit. Nothing. conrad@idkfa.com (conrad) Mercy General Thu, 13 Feb 2014 22:21:50 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6013 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6011 An emission tax would be interesting. Hook something up to the tailpipe that read all the emissions as they left which has a cellular antenna in it which would feed into a bill. Possibly like the European Television license, one would be charged a monthly fee based on having one, and then more on top of that for the emissions. I like it. So everyone would have an allotment per month that was geared towards cars that trucks would always go over. I think the problem would then be that the wealthy would be able to pay it off easy and they would become a bigger wealth symbol; but it would help keep the majority off the streets. Lets get this passed! Brumbaugh for President! Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Mercy General Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:14:12 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6011 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6008 I like driving trucks. But my like does not justify the expense. I only ever need a truck maybe, once or twice a year. So, uh, I agree? Then again, you're almost talking about an emissions tax. Which would be a carbon tax. Which is convoluted. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Mercy General Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:38:53 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6008 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6006 Work is over rated. Reddit has a good little forum Why Do Americans Drive Trucks? Pretty much sums up my question and people pretty much answer how I'd expect: image, random hauling, Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Mercy General Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:06:42 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6006 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6005 Okay, back to work False. Patently false. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Mercy General Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:58:38 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6005 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6003 I don't like large pickup trucks. I've decided that if I ever run for an elected office, one of my first agenda items would be to eliminate the daily use of them. One of my biggest gripes about them is that they aren't needed for day to day commuting that the majority of people do. Sure it's the "American way" to do everything big and ostentatiously but that's just the consumerism/righteousness of our society that I feel is another problem.. I'm better then you and get to do what I want, how I want, and when I want. Blah. Shut up and get a real job you damn hippy! Okay back the first rant. According to fueleconomy.gov the best fuel economy truck is the Ram 1500 2WD is 25mpg combined. The best car without electric assistance is the Ford Fiesta at 37mpg. That's a 12mpg difference. According to here the average miles driven a year is 13,476. That means that the Ram is going to use ~539 gallons and the Ford will use ~364 gallons a year. Here states that the average gas price is $3.309 and diesel is $3.977 per gallon. So the truck will cost ~2144 and the car will be ~1204. A $940 difference a year. The Ram's starting MSRP is ~24385 and the Fiesta is ~$14100 with a difference of $10285. Let's say the average ownership of a vehicle is 6 years the car is saving $5640 in gas, for a total of $15925 in savings over the truck. That's a pretty big chunk of change. That alone should make people switch. Here's some more fun facts: in 2012 we imported 3,120,755 gallons of crude oil seen here. I couldn't find any statistics of how many of each type of vehicle are on the road, but some the sampling here in Anchorage it seems like there's more trucks then cars. Obama has pushed the idea of getting the mpgs of vehicles up, which I believe these numbers are reflective of that that, but I'd try to get them removed pretty much all together. I realize it'd never happen, so I'd Governator@idkfa.com (Governator) Mercy General Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:07:06 -0900 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6003&msg_id=6003