http://www.idkfa.com/v3 idkfa: syndicated http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6784 I think about this regularly, but I also am in shady ass places riding my bike, at shady ass hours occasionally. I also work in a city with relatively small amount of violent crime and live in a city with even less so it's not like I really have to worry about it. Interesting to note in the last several years about 20% of all homicides in Seattle were in fact police shootings. Yeah that sounds high, but it was 6 out of 30 total for last year. On one hand I don't have a problem using force, even deadly force to protect myself. But knowing how I typically react to stressful situations I can say I would mostly likely crumple under the stress and just become a regular victim statistic, or if I were to carry a weapon I would escalate the situation unnecessarily to the point were someone would get get hurt due to my own bravado. I have a suspicion that a lot of "self defense" homicides are kinda due to the second situation where the person with a gun actively provokes, or at least doesn't attempt to cool the situation down, to the point where shooting in "self defense" is the only option left. The law of course seems to favor the story of the one left alive, unless of course it's Nick Cage in ConAir. So also being in a City where I'm almost as likely to get shot by a cop than a criminal is an odd feeling. Doesn't leave me with a whole lot of trust in the police force of Seattle, but of course I don't really threaten anyone with violence so I'm unlikely to ever get myself into a situation where I could be shot by an officer. So I'm going to apologize for this little diatribe and I hope its even remotely comprehensible. I hear the argument all the time that the police have a right to protect themselves from harm, and deadly force is of course one of the totally justifiable methods of doing so. But that kind of comes down to a value judgement that the life of an officer is somehow inherently more MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Look down, look down... Wed, 15 Oct 2014 17:51:15 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6784 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6781 I suppose would. I've been in some terrible situations in the past where I have drawn a weapon on someone endangering my family. The threat was enough, luckily. I claim to be utilitarian, and I imagine people who who endanger other's lives are mostly tortured/unhappy individuals. Thus, if it's people that I know live happier lives, it would definitely have to be us over them. ...this is the first philosophizing I've done on idkfa in quite some time. Brings back memories of some terrible claims. Perhaps Robbie can put me in my place, like the good ol' days ;) I honestly hope to never be in the situation. Unless it's a bear, which I will stab in the face without mercy or regret. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Look down, look down... Wed, 15 Oct 2014 03:41:59 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6781 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6780 I'm super happy to hear that despite the soul erosion it sounds like you encounter daily, you still take the time to reflect on the nature of the situation. I feel that is incredibly important. As to your question, hell if I know. I keep a pistol in my bedroom, unloaded, and in its case. I don't really know why. The situation you propose would be the ideal scenario: you performed an act in defense of yourself and loved ones. I'm not confident that whatever situation would arise would be that ideal, cut or dry. You have years of weapons and psychological training, experience to deal with those situations. I have trouble staying ahead of laundry. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Look down, look down... Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:43:44 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6780 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6779 So in my line of work there is always the chance that I will get into a situation where I may have to draw my weapon and take someones life. I have been thinking about this more and more due to all the controversy with the shooting in Ferguson, St Louis and a few other less known places at the moment. From the research that I have done, along with what I know, those incidents were "legit shoots". There are always those situation such as Tavon Martin and the BART incident along with Zimmerman (non police related) where its a little more complicated. One thing we are always taught is that make sure you go home every night, that is the number 1 goal of the day. Especially more than ever with Natasha and Jensen, I am doing everything I can to make sure I go home at night (as honorably and lawfully as possible of course). My father always told me that it is "better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6". It is very hard now at the moment though because working in the jail I am really seeing the other side of things. Things that most of us never got to experience just due to where we grew up and the people that we hung out with. I know growing up with Erik, John and Josh the only real trouble we go into was...we just had no interest and better things to do...nerdy things to do. I have no compassion for anyone in jail, as some of you may already know due to a prior message. Yes, some people arnt that bad and not everyone is a career criminal. Many make mistakes and others are just drunks. Be that as it may, while you work in a place like this you have to treat everyone like they are a murderer. Just give them what they are owed and nothing else. Okay I digress. What I'm trying to ask you all who are reading is that with your knowledge on weapons, criminals, and the law, would you take someones life if it meant protecting yourself or loved ones from harm or death? I will not judge anyone ether way, just curious really for Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Tue, 14 Oct 2014 22:33:48 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6779 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6770 Innocent till proven toothless Or a murderer, whichever comes first MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Look down, look down... Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:16:35 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6770 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6769 I hope he threw up his hands in exasperation; "Is that all anyone is going to talk about anymore? C'mon. I guess now I'm just the guy who murdered someone. Geeze." Green Man@idkfa.com (Green Man) Look down, look down... Thu, 09 Oct 2014 02:25:40 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6769 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6760 My apologies to Mike, for I told him that I would post stuff last night. These people in jail will try and do anything and everything in order to get more than what they deserve. They try and play deputies, manipulate them into getting anything extra. To set things up, I am currently working on a Mental Health module where anyone crazy basically comes here, they are given the opportunity to take medication but alot of them refuse so they stay crazy. I had this guy today who went to the dentist. He "allegedly" got his mouth numbed up and got some teeth pulled. I'm not really sure, he might have and might not have. Inmates word in jail is shit. So I have to double check everything just in case. Medical personal told me that this guy doesn't need any special diet such as a soft meal which could be blended up food or a vanilla shake (which comes in a carton). This guy keeps bothering me and I keep telling him I owe him nothing and he wont get any more. He is a dick and a problem, but also retarded (excuse my language). I keep telling him that I cant tell him and ask him what he wants me to do. He tells me I need to do my job and help him out and that I need to have some compassion. I respond with, "Oh you want me to have some compassion...how much compassion did you show the guy you murdered." And I havnt heard a word out of him as of yet. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:38:53 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6760 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6743 Fair enough. For some reason when I read that it was, "Taser taser!" in the same way a bad early 90's gangster impression would say something like, "Gat GAT, motherfucker!" Being a safety concern, your explanation makes a lot more sense :) Next time you're feeling you need to "nut [someone] up," just know that there is a lot of quality television out there. Just as for a recommendation. Maybe not as interesting as tasering someone, but also not as potentially dangerous. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Look down, look down... Thu, 02 Oct 2014 12:10:02 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6743 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6742 The reason we say taser is to alert other deputies of your intentions so that they can get out of the way and so they know what you are doing. On slow nights, if I am working a housing unit I will watch TV or movies on my phone. So much happens every so often that it is hard for me to read books, I get distracted to easily. But when I am working with newly arrested inmates and booking them into the facility, when its slow we just stand around and BS, there are about 4-5 other people you directly work with. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Thu, 02 Oct 2014 00:17:38 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6742 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6737 Two things: Do you have to say, "Taser, taser, taser" when tasering somebody? I kinda hope so. Do you need, like, a book to read on slow nights? kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Look down, look down... Fri, 26 Sep 2014 02:47:36 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6737 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6734 Antagonizing drunk people is just too easy ;) Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Look down, look down... Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:40:58 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6734 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6733 Well they are angry and things escalate. It's generally heat of the moment, but we told the guy on many occasions to calm down. People dont realize that when you go to jail you lose certain rights, and they need to do what they are told...within reason. But some people are under the impression that we are limited on what we can do...case in point. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:17:00 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6733 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6732 I really don't see the point of resisting police officers, particularly when you're already in a facility of sorts. What is the thought process? "If I just attack these guys, I can probably escape and just go about my life without consequence?" Or are these dudes just in so deep that anything added to their record is just another line item on a pile of dogshit? Green Man@idkfa.com (Green Man) Look down, look down... Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:47:23 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6732 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6731 I have been busy lately but here is a quick update in the police world. A man was arrested for DUI and brought to our facility. I had discovered that it had been his third DUI but not to sure when the other two were. It had to have been somewhat recently due to the fact that he was driving on a suspended license. He was being an asshole so I decided to "nut him up" which basically means talk shit to him to see if he would try and do anything. It was a boring night and I wanted a little bit of action. So while I was booking a new arrestee, I overhear this asshole talking about how he doesn’t like the way he is being talked down to by deputies "me especially". In turn, I tell him how I don’t appreciate piece of shit people who drink and drive and put other people lives in danger on the road. Of course he didnt like that and two other deputies swoop in and get his left arm in a control hold and escort him to be finger printed. I overhear a deputy yelling multiple times to stop resisting and to get on the ground. I look over and see four deputies trying to control this guy who is like 5'8 but 300lbs, so he was like a sumo wrestler basically. I start walking over to where the skirmish is happening and pull out my taser. I hear the guy yell out "I aint getting on the ground". I'm like alright mother fucker..."taser, taser, taser". I see two deputies basically dive out of the way as I push the taser in his back. The guy screams and falls to the ground, where we were able to cuff him up and throw him into a room. Now could this be avoided, probably...but it was a very slow night. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:37:48 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6731 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6704 To be fair, this is only a hazard on Grindr if you're 15 or 16. Not that I use the app... anymore. Wilber@idkfa.com (Wilber) Look down, look down... Mon, 08 Sep 2014 19:30:42 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6704 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6701 Strangely enough, I'd like to hear about her experiences. Its not all bad here, I only post about the worst/best (depending on how you view it) people here. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Fri, 05 Sep 2014 01:20:29 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6701 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6700 It's fascinating hearing your perspective versus my sister's perspective on jailtime. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Look down, look down... Thu, 04 Sep 2014 12:30:16 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6700 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6699 That has to be better than reality TV. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Look down, look down... Thu, 04 Sep 2014 12:10:48 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6699 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6698 Ok i have something a little newish. It's not so much of a fun story but entertaining non the less. So every inmate is able to have visitors and write as many letters as they want. It is very advantageous for these inmates to have multiple "girlfriends" or "bitches" as I like to think of it. Unless these people are rich or have some weird crazy kind of income they use these women to put money on their accounts so they can get snacks/treats/etc. All of them think they are these guys’ "bottom bitch" though because they are basically just pimps in the end. The part that I am getting to is that we get to read this inmate mail and it is always hilarious when these women start figuring out about each other. These inmates are lazy too and don’t use the "six degrees of separation” rule. Good on them for figuring out ways to get money though, but the train wreck is just amazing. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Thu, 04 Sep 2014 08:46:26 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6698 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6651 I took a picture while he was peeing into a pee bottle, now I just need to figure out how to post it! Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Sat, 26 Jul 2014 00:51:07 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6651 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6647 This makes me question whether or not I need more white supremest tats. MrFood@idkfa.com (MrFood) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:33:32 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6647 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6646 Would you like to know more? [ x ] Yes [ ] No Green Man@idkfa.com (Green Man) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:58:58 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6646 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6643 This makes me lose faith in humanity. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:01:27 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6643 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6642 This makes me question his mother and father's parenting strategy. Scrotor@idkfa.com (Scrotor) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 16:00:59 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6642 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6641 For everyone's benefit: Aaron informed me when trying to make this post that the idkfa server was rejecting him. That is to say: the references in his post to the words "sex" and "underage" and "hook-ups" made the server think he was either a) doing something illegal, or b) spamming the site. You have such a crazy job that the Internet thinks you're spam. kaiden@idkfa.com (kaiden) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 13:09:42 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6641 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6640 Caution to all those Grindr "website" users...there is a guy who has been here for 2 years and is being tried as a child molester. He used Grindr to have hook-up dates with boys around 15 and 16. Well that is pretty messed up if I do say so...but the kicker here is that he has AIDS and he knew about it, and has infected a minimum 6 people. Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 02:27:21 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6640 http://www.idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6639 It has been many years since I have been on here, but Erik's 30th has inspired me to get back on and share with you all my many experiences as a Law Enforcement Officer. I will warn you though alot of the stuff I deal with is pretty messed up and I deal with a ton of racist people. Viewer discretion is advised. To kick things off, there is a guy here that is basically a white supremacist...well he is one due to the fact he has white tattooed on his left tricep and power tattooed on his right tricep, along with a german eagle with a swastika in it. He is also a diabetic but a special kind that gets 4 shots a day and takes a fast and slow acting insulin. He is a major problem within the facility and well we all wish he would literally die. He was getting he blood sugar level checked at 3:30 am and this 6'2" black male nurse wouldn't inform this inmate which his levels were and went into full dick mode (not the kind robbie likes). He was taken and put in a special holding cell and was told that he cant act that way. His response was priceless. "It aint my fault that nigga aint white" Exile@idkfa.com (Exile) Look down, look down... Fri, 25 Jul 2014 02:01:19 -0800 http://idkfa.com/v3/v_thread.php?thread_id=6639&msg_id=6639